money going against me is there an injury? I do not see one that should affect line moves
Dallas Injuries
| Name | Pos | Updated | Injury | Status | Details |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nathan Thomas | T | 9/24 | Undisclosed | I-R | Thomas is sidelined due to a torn undisclosed injury, and it is projected that he will miss the remainder of the season. |
| Tyler Guyton | T | 9/24 | Knee | QUESTIONABLE | Guyton missed the previous two games due to a knee injury, and it is undetermined if he will play against the Giants on Thursday. |
| John Stephens Jr. | TE | 9/24 | Hamstring | QUESTIONABLE | Stephens Jr. missed the last game due to a hamstring injury, and it has yet to be established if he will be on field against the Giants on Thursday. |
| C.J. Goodwin | CB | 9/24 | Foot | QUESTIONABLE | Goodwin was absent from the lineup during the previous game due to a foot injury, and it is unknown if he will play against the Giants on Thursday. |
| Caelen Carson | CB | 9/24 | Shoulder | QUESTIONABLE | Carson is nursing a shoulder injury, and it remains to be seen if he will partake in Thursday's clash versus the Giants. |
| Demarcus Lawrence | DE | 9/24 | Shoulder | QUESTIONABLE | Lawrence is managing a shoulder injury, and it is unclear if he will be active against the Giants on Thursday. |
| Jordan Phillips | DT | 9/18 | Wrist | I-R | Phillips has been on the injured reserve list with a wrist injury, and he will miss an undetermined length of time. |
| Chuma Edoga | G | 8/29 | Toe | OUT | Edoga is dealing with a toe injury, and he will miss at least the first four games of the season. |
| DaRon Bland | CB | 8/24 | Foot | OUT | Bland is dealing with a foot injury, and he will miss an extended period. |
| Earl Bostick Jr. | T | 8/16 | Leg | OUT | Bostick is set to undergo surgery on his injured right leg, and it is unclear how long he will be debilitated. |
| Israel Mukuamu | S | 8/3 | Undisclosed | OUT | Mukuamu is dealing with an undisclosed injury, and he will miss an undetermined length of time. |
| Sam Williams | DE | 7/29 | Knee | OUT | Williams has torn the ACL in his left knee, and will miss the upcoming season. |
NY Giants Injuries
| Name | Pos | Updated | Injury | Status | Details |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Matthew Adams | LB | 9/24 | Groin | QUESTIONABLE | Adams missed the previous two games due to a groin injury, and it is unclear if he will play against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| Drew Lock | QB | 9/24 | Hip | QUESTIONABLE | Lock has been diagnosed with a hip injury, and it is unknown if he will play against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| John Michael Schmitz Jr. | C | 9/24 | Ankle | QUESTIONABLE | Schmitz Jr. sat out the previous two contests with an ankle injury, and it is unknown if he will play against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| Evan Neal | T | 9/24 | Ankle | QUESTIONABLE | Neal missed the previous game due to an ankle injury, and he is undetermined if he will play against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| Darius Muasau | LB | 9/24 | Knee | QUESTIONABLE | Muasau is nursing a knee injury, and it is up in the air if he will take the field against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| Nick McCloud | CB | 9/24 | Knee | QUESTIONABLE | McCloud is managing a knee injury, and it is unknown if he will play against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| Andru Phillips | CB | 9/24 | Calf | QUESTIONABLE | Philips exited the contest with a calf injury, and it is unclear if he will suit up for Thursday's game against Cowboys. |
| Dexter Lawrence II | DL | 9/24 | Foot | QUESTIONABLE | Lawrence is tending a foot injury, and it is undetermined if he will be available against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| Micah McFadden | LB | 9/24 | Back | QUESTIONABLE | McFadden is nursing a back injury, and it is unclear if he will suit up against Cowboys on Thursday. |
| Darius Slayton | WR | 9/24 | Thumb | PROBABLE | Slayton is dealing with a thumb injury, but is still expected to play on Thursday against the Cowboys. |
| Dyontae Johnson | LB | 9/18 | Ankle | I-R | Johnson is placed on the injured reserve list due to an ankle injury, and he is expected to miss at least four games. |
| Graham Gano | K | 9/17 | Hamstring | I-R | Gano has been placed on injured reserve with a hamstring injury, and he will miss an undetermined length of time. |
| Gunner Olszewski | WR | 9/14 | Groin | OUT | Olszewski is out of commission due to a groin injury, and he will miss an undetermined length of time. |
| Austin Schlottmann | OL | 8/29 | Leg | OUT | Schlottman is dealing with a broken fibula, and he is expected to remain out of the lineup until the latter part of October. |
Again, the "problem" with this system is finding consistency with which opening numbers to use, right? I've looked at three different sites for opening numbers and none of them had the Giants at +5. That's not to say you can't find sites that had the Giants +5 as their opening number, it's only to say I didn't.
The only point I guess I'm trying to make is this "system" has this inherent problem. Unless we can decide which source to use for the "official" opening lines, a bunch of us could come up with different results. The "system" almost becomes a personalized thing!
Anyway, just pointing out the problem. The example here is YOU call the Giants +5 a "system" play, yet the numbers below suggest differently.....
Odds via Caesars. (The right hand column are the opening numbers)
| Game | Sept. 24 | Opening spread (Sept. 19) |
|---|---|---|
| Cowboys vs. Giants | Cowboys -4 | Cowboys -6.5 |
| Rams vs. Bears | Bears -1.5 | Bears -3 |
| Eagles vs. Buccaneers | Eagles -2.5 | Eagles -1 |
| Vikings vs. Packers | Packers -3 | Packers -2.5 |
| Jaguars vs. Texans | Texans -4.5 | Texans -4.5 |
| Bengals vs. Panthers | Bengals -5.5 | Bengals -7 |
| Steelers vs. Colts | Steelers -1.5 | Colts -1 |
| Saints vs. Falcons | Falcons -1.5 | Falcons -1.5 |
| Broncos vs. Jets | Jets -7.5 | Jets -8 |
| Patriots vs. 49ers | 49ers -10.5 | 49ers -9.5 |
| Commanders vs. Cardinals | Cardinals -5 | Cardinals -5 |
| Browns vs. Raiders | Browns -1 | Browns -1 |
| Chiefs vs. Chargers | Chiefs -8.5 | Chiefs -4 |
| Bills vs. Ravens | Ravens -2.5 | Ravens -1.5 |
| Titans vs. Dolphins | Pick 'em | Dolphins -1.5 |
| Seahawks vs. Lions | Lions -4 | Lions -4 |
well if I keep winning you may have to just trust me.....another problem is as you may know a lot of times you may find an opening number that may have been set a month or 2 ago as far as the game, , Sunday after noon when lines come out, try looking at Vegas Insider last year they would post line on Sunday evenings, and what I liked about their site was when you clicked on each game and hit the opening number, they would show you like 5 offshore books and about 9 Vegas books and it would show their numbers from the start of Sunday night and it would show what time it was and what day it was that they moved , that was the best way to do it and I would need at least 3 books showing an opening line of 5 or 5.5 here is this weeks this was fro\m sunday,,,and what is odd is they are today showing an opening line of 4.5 even though I copied this Sunday night
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this is from odds shark and they have Minnesota +5.5 and Carolina +5.5 as opening numbers this is what they show as opening lines
Matchup
Opening Odds
Best Odds
Line HistoryMatchup
14h 41m 44s
8:15PM EDT
Dallas
VS
NY Giants
-4
-110
+4
-110
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
LA Rams
VS
Chicago
+1
-120
-1
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Minnesota
VS
Green Bay
+5.5
-120
-5.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Jacksonville
VS
Houston
+3.5
-120
-3.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
New Orleans
VS
Atlanta
+3.5
-120
-3.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Cincinnati
VS
Carolina
-5.5
-120
+5.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Pittsburgh
VS
Indianapolis
+1
-120
-1
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Denver
VS
NY Jets
+7
-120
-7
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Philadelphia
VS
Tampa Bay
-3
-120
+3
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:05PM EDT
Washington
VS
Arizona
+3
-120
-3
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:05PM EDT
New England
VS
San Francisco
+12
-120
-12
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:25PM EDT
Kansas City
VS
LA Chargers
-3.5
-120
+3.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:25PM EDT
Cleveland
VS
Las Vegas
-1.5
-120
+1.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
8:20PM EDT
Buffalo
VS
Baltimore
+3
-120
-3
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
7:30PM EDT
Tennessee
VS
Miami
+6.5
-120
-6.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
8:15PM EDT
Seattle
VS
Detroit
+6
-120
-6
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
8:15PM EDT
Tampa Bay
VS
Atlanta
+3
-120
-3
-120
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THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26
Matchup
Opening Odds
Best Odds
Line HistoryMatchup
14h 41m 44s
8:15PM EDT
Dallas
VS
NY Giants
-4
-110
+4
-110
- -
- -
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 29
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
LA Rams
VS
Chicago
+1
-120
-1
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Minnesota
VS
Green Bay
+5.5
-120
-5.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Jacksonville
VS
Houston
+3.5
-120
-3.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
New Orleans
VS
Atlanta
+3.5
-120
-3.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Cincinnati
VS
Carolina
-5.5
-120
+5.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Pittsburgh
VS
Indianapolis
+1
-120
-1
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Denver
VS
NY Jets
+7
-120
-7
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
1:00PM EDT
Philadelphia
VS
Tampa Bay
-3
-120
+3
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:05PM EDT
Washington
VS
Arizona
+3
-120
-3
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:05PM EDT
New England
VS
San Francisco
+12
-120
-12
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:25PM EDT
Kansas City
VS
LA Chargers
-3.5
-120
+3.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
4:25PM EDT
Cleveland
VS
Las Vegas
-1.5
-120
+1.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
8:20PM EDT
Buffalo
VS
Baltimore
+3
-120
-3
-120
- -
- -
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 30
Line HistoryMatchup
7:30PM EDT
Tennessee
VS
Miami
+6.5
-120
-6.5
-120
- -
- -
Line HistoryMatchup
8:15PM EDT
Seattle
VS
Detroit
+6
-120
-6
-120
- -
- -
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3
Line HistoryMatchup
8:15PM EDT
Tampa Bay
VS
Atlanta
+3
-120
-3
-120
- -
- -
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this is from Odds Trader 1st box is opening line
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NFLTHU 09/26
OPENER
Sports Betting Odds Today
LINE TYPE- Line Type
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- 1H
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Yesterday
NFLTHU 09/26
OPENER
THU 09/268:15 PM
Dallas 1-2 17% -5½ -110FanDuel | -5½ -110 | -5½ -115 | -6 -110 | -5½ -112 | -5½ -110 | -6 -110 | -6 -108 |
N.Y. Giants 1-2 83% +6 -110BetMGM | +5½ -110 | +5½ -105 | +6 -110 | +5½ -109 | +5½ -110 | +6 -110 | +6 -112 |
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| -4 -110 +4 -110 | -5.5-110 +6-110 
| -6-110 +6-110 | -5.5-115 +5.5-105 | -5.5-110 +5.5-110 | -6-108 +6-112 | -5.5-113 +5.5-110 | -5.5-112 +5.5-109 | -6-110 +6-110 | |
| 8:15 PM | |||||||||
| +7.5 -110 -7.5 -110 | +7.5-110
-7.5-105 | +7.5-110 -7.5-110 | +7.5-110 -7.5-110 | +7.5-115 -7.5-105 | +7.5-110 -7.5-110 | +7.5-114 -7.5-109 | +7.5-114 -7.5-107 | +7.5-110 -7.5-110 | |
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
| -6.5 -110 +6.5 -110 | -4-108+4.5-115 | -4-110 +4-110 | -4-110 +4-110 | -4.5-105 +4.5-115 | -4-108 +4-112 | -4-110 +4-113 | -4-109 +4-112 | -4-110 +4-110 | |
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
| -3 -110 +3 -110 | -2-110
+1.5-105 | -2-110 +2-110 | -2-110 +2-110 | -1.5-115 +1.5-105 | -2-110 +2-110 | -2-112 +2-112 | -2-110 +2-110 | -2-110 +2-110 | |
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
| +1.5 -112 -1.5 -108 | +3-110
-2.5-117 
| +3-110 -3-110 | +3-110 -3-110 | +2.5-102 -2.5-120 | +3-112 -3-108 | +2.5-106 -2.5-118 | +2.5-105 -2.5-117 | +3-110 -3-110 | |
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
| +3.5 -112 -3.5 -108 | +2.5-110 -2.5-110 | +2.5-110 -2.5-110 | +1.5-112 -1.5-108 | +2.5-108 -2.5-112 | +2.5-110 -2.5-113 | +2.5-109 -2.5-112 | +2.5-110 -2.5-110 | ||
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
| +3.5 -112 -3.5 -108 | +6.5-105
-6.5-108 | +6.5-105 -6.5-115 | +6.5-110 -6.5-110 | +6.5-105 -6.5-115 | +6.5-112 -6.5-108 | +6.5-113 -6.5-110 | +6.5-112 -6.5-109 | +6.5-110 -6.5-110 | |
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
Vikings 269 
Packers 270 | +5 -112 -5 -108 |
| +2.5-105 -2.5-115 | +2.5-105 -2.5-115 | +2.5-105 -2.5-115 | +2.5-102 -2.5-118 | +2.5-108 -2.5-115 | +2.5-107 -2.5-114 | +2.5-105 -2.5-115 |
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
| +1.5 -112 -1.5 -108 | -1.5-110
+1.5-108 | -1.5-110 +1.5-110 | -1.5-110 +1.5-110 | -1.5-110 +1.5-110 | -1.5-112 +1.5-108 | -1.5-112 +1.5-112 | -1.5-110 +1.5-110 | -1.5-110 +1.5-110 | |
| Sun 9/29, 1:00 PM | |||||||||
| +10-105 -10.5-105
| +10.5-115 -10.5-105 | +10-105 -10-115 | +10.5-115 -10.5-105 | +10.5-112 -10.5-108 | +10-109 -10-114 | +10-108 -10-113 | |||
well did anyone besides me jump on the OVER 79.5 yds Rec by Lamb??? if ya did you are a WINNER and the OVER 12.5 TT Dallas you have another WINNER need the Giants now but its always nice to win a couple of props 1st just in case so you cannot lose money now...we are getting some big winds 60 mph still and the thing has passed us suppose to slow down in a hour or so hopefully
4-1 last night on plays given out
MInnesota+4 1 unit
OVER 50 Wash/Ariz
Buff+3 2 units
teaser Pitt/wash 6 pt 1.5 units Pitt+4.5/Wash +9.5
and going to do a 4 team ML Parlay 50.00 nice payout and it has a chance for sure
Header:
INTERNET : 4 Team Parlay risk 50.00 win 1032.08
Bet Details:
MInnesota+4 1 unit
OVER 50 Wash/Ariz
Buff+3 2 units
teaser Pitt/wash 6 pt 1.5 units Pitt+4.5/Wash +9.5
and going to do a 4 team ML Parlay 50.00 nice payout and it has a chance for sure
Confirmation: 6080229
Date Placed: 09/27/24 13:28:06Header:
INTERNET : 4 Team Parlay risk 50.00 win 1032.08
Bet Details:
- 263 Saints (+115) (NFL)
- 265 Steelers (-135) (NFL)
- 269 Vikings (+125) (NFL)
- 279 Commanders (+157) (NFL)
